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What kind of mind decides that a "contact support" form should have a 128-characters limit? That said, when there is an issue with an account and it gets disabled, what kind of mind decides "let's not send an e-mail to the customer about it, he'll figure it out next time he tries to use our service!"?
#CustomerSupportFail #UIFail :)

[Update] So 24 hours later, #Cisco support has contacted me once, to tell me that my request was bumped from one department (technical support) to another (client manager)… Awesome…

Markos Giannopoulos:

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  • [Long discourse ahead. Fortunately G+ has no 128 char limit on comment boxes]...

    There are a number of technical and business reason why this limit might be here. In no particular order:

    Technical reasons:
    - It's an old field, from an old software version, was size-determined years ago, and maps to a fixed width database column.
    - If you change the table column size, you maybe have to rebuild the table.
    - You could change to a varchar, but then that probably affects your indexing and other existing internal and external code that depends on the field type.
    - There are likely third party vendor integrations that may themselves have max size limits. Changing the size of this field means you now have to retest all those integrations.
    - For an integration, it's likely this field is exposed via WSDLs. Changing the size invalidates those WSDLs.
    - Automation (business rules, workflows, emails, etc) certainly depend on this field. Some of those expect data no larger than a certain size from this field. Again, cascading changes.

    Business process reasons:
    - The longer the field, the harder to search/report on data. Analytics would rather have data in fixed-option dropdowns or checkboxes than scattered throughout text fields.
    - This form almost certainly creates a new case/issue for customer support (that's the point, really). Those cases will already have support for case comments internally, and THOSE fields will probably have much larger limits.
    - If you give people the chance to write an essay, a lot of times they will. Keeping the field size small forces a concise summary, and pushes a lot of the supporting data into either the case comments or into the fixed-option fields.
    - Most of the time the text in the box isn't really useful. "It's broken when I do this!" isn't something that really helps. So the box is partially there as a placebo.

    So, there are lots of reasons (some valid, some legacy, some cost-of-change) why it might be that way. :)

  • thank you for the analysis +Ian Zepp but you can't describe a problem in 128 characters. in that sense, a support form is the first step to helping the user. if this isn't achieved, there is no point to having a support form

  • Have you run analysis of support form average comment lengths? It's quite possible that within a standard deviation or two, most comments fall under 128 characters, and longer issues belong in a case comment, instead of the initial form submission. There is a very real cost to changing architecture once it's in place and other support systems are built around it. You are a sysadmin, you know this. And in the case of this specific screenshot, Cisco WebEx is a large, old, and complex product.

    While at a basic level I agree that the comment size should be larger, you asked why someone would make that decision. That's why people make those decisions. :)

  • well i just run a quick query on one of our systems, the average message is 310 characters :)

  • Then it wouldn't work for you. But is that correlation or causation? :p Anyways, not going to argue to point any more.

  • LOL i'm sure if Cisco does a query they will find that all their messages are below 128 chars so there is no point to make a change :)

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